Because They Told Me
May 6 2012 in G-J's Blog by G-J
When I grew up, I knew my parents wanted to be cremated because they told me. I knew they didn’t want to be hooked onto machines to stay alive, as they phrased it, because they told me. I knew that my parents wanted their ashes scattered. My mom made it clear that they didn’t want to be in a cemetery because she didn’t ever want their to be any feeling of obligation to visit. Growing up, we never visited my grandparents’ graves, but Steve and our son and I have gone once and found my grandparents graves in California and my grandfather’s grave in New York.
My parents retired and moved to Arizona. After their move, my mom called to tell me that I wouldn’t want to hear it, but they had made their arrangements to be cremated when the time arrived and she would send me information about it. She was right that I didn’t want to hear about it. Even though I was in my 30’s at the time, I really wanted to put my fingers in my ears and not hear or talk about what my Mom was saying. Who wants to talk to anyone about death? Ick.
My mom also threatened me and let me know that she wanted no service, memorial, gathering or anything else. If I did have one, she would haunt me. This did not sound like it would be a good thing! I tried to reason with her, but she would have none of it.
My parents completed all that less than delightful paperwork and told us that they had DNRs and had completed paperwork so that they wouldn’t be artificially kept alive.
The time came that my mom was in the hospital and decisions had to be made. As hard as it was to make the right decision, we, my Dad, my two brothers and I all knew what Mom wanted. With the arrangements already made, there were no decisions to be made about “what to do with Mom.” Wow. I have to say that at that point I realized what a gift we had been given by my parents.
My dad and the box with my mom’s ashes moved to our house. The box stayed here in the closet when my dad got an apartment. When my dad went onto hospice, I was told we had to make my dad’s arrangements. They did not like my answer that the arrangements were already made since that mortuary was in Arizona, so I sat down with my dad, discussed what he wanted, and took care of the paperwork.
My dad became even more firm regarding how he wanted his life to end. “Don’t let this happen to me,” he had said when my mom was in the hospital. It was because he didn’t want to die in the hospital that he went onto hospice.
My dad passed away peacefully in his bed, and again I knew I had done just what my dad wanted. A simple phone call from hospice took care of the next step, and Steve and I went to the Neptune Society’s office to sign paperwork and take my mom’s ashes. We had been able to arrange to have both of my parent’s ashes sprinkled in the ocean together. Despite always having made their wishes clear, there was some resistance from one brother. We did compromise by purchasing a very small urn for him and having ashes from both parents placed into it.
Steve and I have tried to talk to his parents about this for years. I appealed to my father-in-law from a financial angle (it will be less expensive to make your arrangements in advance). I appealed to him from an emotional angle (Do you want your wife to be making these decisions in her darkest hour?). Steve took a tougher stance and threatened to bury them in the yard with the cats.
All these years there was no discussion with their three grown sons regarding life support, DNRs and final wishes.
My mother-in-law spent about ten weeks in the hospital before the respirator was finally turned off last week. It’s been awful for Steve, quite frankly, because he and his older brother felt their mother had passes away on Easter. However, since she’d never made her wishes known, they didn’t know if she really did want every possible thing done, and then some, which is what happened. The only comment she made was, “Make sure I’m dead” which one of the sons now thinks meant she had a premonition about what would happen.
The rosary and funeral will be this coming weekend. Unfortunately, because nothing was planned in advance, it has been much harder than it should be. No one knows what she wanted, no one knows what they should do when decisions need to be made. Family members are upset with each other instead of supporting each other in a difficult time.
When the dust settles, these hard discussions need to be held with Steve’s dad. I frankly do not think they will happen this time, either, but I hope people have learned from the experience they’ll just had.
For everyone reading this, make your wishes known. Tell your family, put it in writing, and make the arrangements so those you love don’t have to make the hard decisions without your support, when it is the last decision they want to make. Talk to your parents and find out from their wishes. Learn what not to do from my husband’s family. Learn what to do from mine. Let your children be the ones to say, “I knew what to do because they told me.” You’ll be giving a gift more valuable than you can ever imagine.

ejourneys said on May 6, 2012
G-J, I am so sorry for your loss — and sorry that you are all going through not only grief and uncertainty at this time, but also discord.
I agree with you whole-heartedly. My parents were both cremated. My partner and I have DNRs in place. I’ve got “organ donor” on my license. Due to my partner’s condition, I switched my POA to a friend, which was one of the most painful decisions I’ve had to make. But I feel a bit more at ease for having made it. In my wallet I carry a list of insurance, medical, and other contact numbers.
My father had made advance arrangements with the funeral home, which made my job easier (all things considered) when he died, especially since I was also in the midst of a very difficult executorship for another relative at the same time.
My heart goes out to you, Steve, and Steve’s family. I wish you all comfort in the days ahead. And thank you for talking about the need to do “the talk” that many avoid. (((Hugs)))
carlaschuchman said on May 7, 2012
G-J I too am so sorry for your loss. After 6 yrs now of facing illnesses and death in my family, about a year ago I put everything in writing, got all the paperwork done and no one has anything to really decide for all of us. My mom and dad had everything in order too. In fact, when mom decided she was finished here, and that is what it was, (they put her in hospice for lack of desire to live), we discovered that the year before she had doubled and tripled up on payments and 2 months before her decision, all bills were paid in full. Amazing! She taught me so much about so many things, but this, this really helped all of us and has been the example I have followed. Your post has made we think of other things I should write down. Thank you for sharing your heart. God be with you.
Old Billy said on May 7, 2012
G-J,
This is so true,
No matter how well planned the end is there will still be decisions to be made and the fewer people involved in the decision process the better off everyone is. My father’s big joke was that he decided to be creamated because he figured he’d die in Florida and buried up North; “carry-on is cheaper than stow away”
Jo said on May 7, 2012
Hard lessons learned under the worse of circumstances; lessons we all should heed. Thank you for sharing them.
Angela said on May 7, 2012
This information is so valuable. It is indeed a gift when our love ones make early decisions. How do we incorporate pre-arrangements into our family discusssions? Thank you for sharing.
Denise said on May 7, 2012
Hi G-J–I’m so sorry about your mother-in-law. It’s distressing when the end is full of questions and doubts, which makes it much harder than it has to be. I’m glad you shared this–we all can do what we can to make our end is a good one for all of us.
kristin said on May 7, 2012
I’m sorry about your mother-in-law, G-J, and especially about all the difficulty her refusal to discuss end-of-life matters caused you. Your post prompted me to ask Mary’s daughter about Mary’s situation, and I guess they have everything covered. But you also spurred me to do my own DNR & Advanced Directive, which I have been putting off.
Trish said on May 7, 2012
G-J, I’m sorry for the loss of your mother-in-law. You have done a great service in writing this post and giving a real world example of the how-tos (and how-not-tos). I’m sorry it was made so difficult and there is contention even after her passing. Please give my condolences to Steve on the loss of his mom and your son on the loss of his grandmother. What a lesson for him to learn at such a young age! I have to say that Steve’s retort was quite comical (we cremate our cats but our hamsters are out back).
Sending you and your family hugs, GJ.
Bette said on May 8, 2012
Hi G-J,
I’m sorry about your mother-in-law. Please offer my sympathy and thoughts to Steve as well.
Thank you for this reminder to all of us. Steve is fortunate for your past experiences. I hope all is able to be agreed upon soon-the thoughts need to be with the memories now.
Thinking of each of you.
Kathy said on May 8, 2012
G-J,
My deepest sympathies for you and your family.
How is Steve handling the stress?
You are so right that we all need to discuss End of life issues and pre arrange things the way we want.
Hubby and I have and both have decided what we want and have already made this very clear to our children.
I think your parents and we, are related
It’s so sad when a loved one passes yet even sadder when as you say, “Family members are upset with each other instead of supporting each other in a difficult time.”
I’ve witnessed this more than once.
Hubby’s mother refused to discuss end of life so many questions and decisions had to be made with much hostility from family members.
I plan on giving this “gift” to our own children.
We discuss these things openly and frequently, so they wont forget when the time comes and they wont put us with the cats …ick.
For us it seems like a natural discussion. .
Again, my condolences.
Thank you for sharing this difficult time with us.
{{{hugs}}}