What To Do When…
May 14 2012 in Elly's Granddaughter by EllysGdaughter
We seem to be in a difficult spot and need some expert real life solutions with how to approach this next transition.
Grandma Elly is having some difficulties with her memory. Her son has suggested that I take over managing her checkbook and prescriptions. I agreed to this plan and so does my Awesome Hubby. It’s good that we are on the same page. Our conversations have been going in the direction of, What needs to change in light of what we are observing about Grandma’s physical, emotional and social needs? What kind words to you use to lovingly let your caree know that now is the time to let go of the checkbook, credit card and managing pills (reordering)? There isn’t enough dementia to cloud her understanding that she is being watched and evaluated.
Grandma doesn’t want to communicate with us about her day-to-day physical needs or struggles. She is a private person. I am in some ways afraid to go through this step since Elly is a very strong minded, generous, loving, always-in-charge person. She denies that she “forgets” things but we can tell by her reactions that sometimes she just doesn’t remember or understand. I tend to start correcting her, wanting her to be right because that is how she has always been, but realizing that it ‘s not that important anymore rather more important to make her feel valued.
What do we see? There is a rigidity to her schedule – not always a bad thing – unless you are trying to finish some outside chore that will take you past the noon lunch time. We are told emphatically to “turn the light on”, “Put on a jacket/Take off your jacket”, “How much laundry do you have to do?” (for the fifth time), and “Make sure you lock the door.” I struggle with the food issues. She fixes lunch for me every day – large amounts of leftovers from the refrigerator get microwaved to death or veggies get a milky sauce, the same leftovers microwaved more than twice in the week (because I didn’t eat them) or the wrong leftovers. Well, the large amount that I wanted to serve for dinner get heated up for just the two of us.
Food sits in the refrigerator without being put into a closed container. My Grandma didn’t use to be like this. I have tried to talk to her ahead of time about what we could have for lunch, I’ve put notes on it in the refrigerator, and I’ve listed it on my daily/weekly schedule. She just wants it her way but does it with a SMILE.
Lately, she gets frustrated with the computer because it’s too slow when she boots it up and then clicks her email icon too many times, too slowly, before it is ready.
I try to boot it and get it ready before I leave for work to remedy that problem. She’s usually a patient person.
Elly has been ordering books online. The problem is that she forgets that she has already ordered her favorite book and orders it again–from another vendor. Her emails from the vendors remind her of her orders but she can’t figure them out until I point them out to her. She has been writing checks to all the pleas for $$ that have come in the mail that slip by my watchful eye (my niece brings in the mail sometimes). Did you realize that the Breast Cancer, Cystic Fibrosis, Veterans and Red Cross send out their pleas for $$ Every Week??? At least that is what is happening in our mailbox.
Physically, Grandma takes care of her own personal hygiene. She’s given up crochet, knitting, and sewing because it hurts her hand/fingers. We work on jigsaw puzzles and she likes to help me cook/bake (but it drives me crazy). She insists on keeping moving, walking, mopping, sweeping and watering the potted plants inside and outside. We watch her do this as she struggles with a bad (arthritis?) knee that the doctor doesn’t have much to help her with and she doesn’t want anyone to deal with – understandable at 91.5 years old. This does affect her walking and balance but she insists on carrying stuff without her cane back and forth to the table.
She has a walker and will only use it to “carry” dishes and stuff from the refrigerator when she feels like it. Today, I rescued her from the garden hose – she went outside as I was leaving for errands and for some reason I came back to check on her.
Grandma has trouble remembering to take her pills, mainly the ones at lunch. We watch her slurp her food with her pills and then get a tummy ache in the afternoon. She doesn’t complain, just sits with the heating pad on her tummy (even when it’s 80 degrees in the house). She takes pills for blood pressure, thyroid and vitamins. They are divided up by AM and PM. She has been known to take an extra set of PM pills but there is no harm in that for her, physically.
We just need to watch her. Grandma does faint/pass out when she sits under the hair dryer or get too warm when sitting in her chair for a long time. She’s ended up in the hospital for that so we make sure the hairdresser can contact us if that happens to avoid the 911 call.
Grandma does have back pain/spasms but just sits with the heating pad on her back for those, doesn’t complain, keeps getting up and moving around. Her physical limitations should be telling her to give up some of these “chores” but she presses on believing that if she doesn’t press on she won’t be able to get up and go anymore.
Socially, she’s given up going to church – probably because she falls asleep easily and it’s hard to hear even with her hearing aids. She doesn’t call her friends or siblings anymore. We have a hard-of-hearing type phone. She enjoys visits from folks but when we have people over, she criticizes how we’ve handled seating arrangements or food passing etc. so, I won’t have folks over anymore.
I won’t tolerate the criticism (my mom was abusive that way) and she doesn’t understand how much that hurts. We have been given permission to use the living room as we like but can’t have a TV in there or eliminate any furniture to make it more comfy. She has allowed my son who just graduated from college to move into the living room for the foreseeable year. She still walks through to get her newspaper at 5:30 a.m. every morning so I am not sure how long he will want to stay.
She really likes having him here since we haven’t seen much of him after five years living at college (4 years- just 2 miles away).
So, I’ve probably given too much info but sometimes I read other folks’ situations who are caregiving at a much higher level. It would be easy to assume at 91.5 yrs old that Grandma would be ready to be catered to and pampered. This one is still strong minded, in control and set in her ways. I do enjoy the fact that she can fix her own meal when we are out for the evening – I keep good quality frozen dinners for variety. I love being able to cook our evening meals and bake every so often – when I can do it by myself. My AH is beginning to be able to understand my venting and has done some of his own venting lately which gives us something to laugh, cry or moan about.
We are both fixers so we have started to rub each other wrong as we’ve dealt with Grandma–coming together works much better. There are so many more issues but will blog about those later. We just need a perspective and words that will help us address taking charge of the checkbook/credit card and prescriptions without saying words like “control” or “unable to manage”. Maybe there aren’t “better” words, we continue to pray over this next transition, that it would be a smooth one.
I feel like when we take away something, she needs to have some kind of “job” to replace it – something she Can Do. We are wracking our brains – she refuses to consider Adult Day Care even when I said she could have her own reading circle. Elly says she knows “those people don’t read books.” She always has a reason and a story about whatever I bring up.
So thanks for your thoughtful advice.

roaringmouse said on May 15, 2012
Dear Elly’s Grandaughter,
Wow! You have a tough situation! But you sound like you and your husband have teamed up and started giving it some serious thought and it already seems like you have gotten a good head start. I would definitely pay attention to the finances…if left unwatched that could also bring some unwanted trouble.
My forte is not with elderly issues…but I too do have a mother who can be can of challenging to work with. Because of how serious and challenging my husband’s medical issues are though, and her insistence that there is no room in the world for Western medicine of any kind…she will never be able to move in with us. Which on some level, does make it kind of tough, because she lives by herself in another state and has managed to so infuriate all other family and friends that no one will have anything to do with her. So I just mentally do a paradigm shift and try to focus on the parts of her that make her more human like having her interact with our daughter and talking to her about coupons. Can she clip and find coupons for you? Both in the paper and on the Internet?
As to the food…do you have a second small freezer that you keep locked? Perhaps you could put some of the food in that. Or maybe you could separate out some of the food in containers that you specifically identify for her and have others maybe harder to open for yourself and AH. This and the item of getting the newspaper at 5:30am sound like she’s fearful that she’s going to be forgotten.
I’ve noticed that you also said that she isn’t interested in church, Adult Day activities and would prefer to keep to herself. Is there a Depression issue? Or maybe one of her medications needs to be tweaked?
I know that there are others who can offer more in-depth answers as they have more experience with this, so again I will defer to them. But let me leave you with a small laugh…
My mother-in-law (may she rest in peace!) was a tiny lady whose size could not match her independence and strength. When we were living in an apartment, they came to visit me while my hubby was on a business trip. I came home from work to find she had made dinner for me. The first night was soggy mac & cheese with a pound of salt, the second night was spaghetti that had salted soggy noodles and sauce that …well..represented anything but sauce and the third night my father-in-law took pity on me and talked her into buying me deli for dinner. Good thing I wasn’t looking forward to feigning an upset stomach for a 3rd night! They went out that night while I stayed at home and hubby called. Whirrrrr! Whirrr!! Whirr! “What are you doing??” –Ma cooked dinner! A few years later she passed from cancer that had mastasized (sp?) in her vocal chords and had gone to her brain before it was discovered. We will always treasure the memory of how she those two pounds of spaghetti meat!
Hugs!
EllysGdaughter said on May 16, 2012
Hi RM, I do hide food but it’s not in a locked freezer – we have 2 refrigerators and a freezer so there’s a good amount of space to juggle things. I have the “TV dinners” in the open for when she is alone for dinner – she’ll forget to get them out of the freezer after we leave or they thaw out on the counter until she gets around to dinner after we’ve left. It’s really hit and miss whether she acknowledges our notes. Elly was definitely depressed when we first moved in and not so much now. She’s just really tired. She hasn’t fully accepted to hearing aids – doesn’t like them still after 6 or so years. Now that we live with her, she’s had to wear them every day!! She still says she can hear just fine, out of one ear especially
I am not sure about the fear of being forgotten, she doesn’t want a service after her death. We haven’t talked about dying in the last several years. I know she’s in denial, she’s stated that she will need her bedroom furniture back after we move out LOL!!
I am glad you have some good fun stories to remember your Mom! Our spaghetti story happened last week. I made Teriyaki Chicken stir fry one night and the next I made Spaghetti. For leftovers, Elly took the Chicken out of the stir fry and put it in the Spaghetti. Fortunately, I wasn’t there to enjoy it! We just laughed when my son texted us the picture of his dinner!
Thanks for bringing up those issues…
Denise said on May 15, 2012
Hi EG–It’s always good to hear from you.
I think we all want control for as long as we can have it. This point in the caregiving journey is a hard one–you really feel like you’re betwixt and between, like between a rock and a hard place.
I hope you don’t mind a few questions:
1. Has your grandmother had a complete physical recently? And, has her doctor diagnosed a dementia?
2. If she has a diagnosis of dementia, how aware is she of the diagnosis?
3. Who has durable power of attorney for her finances?
4. Does your grandmother have a routine for bill-paying (i.e., every Saturday morning)?
EllysGdaughter said on May 16, 2012
Questions are good.
1. Elly’s last physical was in March and her primary doctor is just going along with her to some extent. He was adjusting her BP meds willy, nilly with samples from his closet that made her worse before I asked for a specialist. He wouldn’t be able to experience her mental deficiency but his nurse clearly saw it in her interaction with Elly. I am wondering if I should have a consultation with him this summer. Her kidney specialist has been so helpful with her meds keeping her blood pressure in check but hasn’t experienced her lapses in mental ability.
2. She has no diagnosis of anything but High Blood Pressure & diminished kidney function, as far as I am aware. Her knee is talked about as arthritis but her leg is so bent. . . . Elly won’t complain about anything and tells the doctor she’s fine whenever I take her in.
3. I am on her bank accounts and have privileges there. My uncle would have the power to manage her house mortgage and other assets.
4. Grandma puts her bills on her desk and sometime during the week pays them, usually when I am not home in the morning. She has shown me where her papers are kept in her desk. I would continue that but take away the checkbook so we have to do it together when she pays bills.
Denise said on May 16, 2012
Hi–Thanks for the answers.
A few suggestions:
1. Call the local chapter of the Alzheimer’s Association for a referral to a Memory Clinic or Alzheimer’s Disease Education and Referral Center. You’ll want Elly screened by a physician and other professionals so you know what’s going on with her. (You can learn more about ADEARs here: http://www.nia.nih.gov/alzheimers). If she has a dementia, the staff can help you determine treatment and care options.
2. You’ll also want to make sure that Elly has appointed a durable Power of Attorney for health care and finances. The “durable” part is really important because it means someone can make decisions on her behalf if she can’t. An elderlaw attorney can help you with this if she doesn’t have one. if she doesn’t have this, you’ll want to have it done ASAP.
3. I was going to suggest you create a ritual of paying bills together. I think that’s a great idea–she enjoys a meaningful activity and you make sure all is okay with the bills.
4. You can have her address removed from solicitations by contacting the charities and explaining your grandmother’s situation.
I think the hard part is keeping her safe (financially, emotionally and physically) without making her really mad. You may have to make some decisions and take some actions that will make her mad. But, those decisions also will keep her safe. She’ll get over getting mad as long as she’s safe.
Kathy said on May 15, 2012
Hi Elly’s Granddaughter,
Does your grandmother pay her bills and book orders monthly? If she realizes she is making mistakes, perhaps she would be willing to let you help her with the bills like sorting them, then you write the check, she signs it and you keep the ledger neat and organized for her. My MIL did that with her daughter for a few years and then eventually became so accustomed to her help she finally just left it to her daughter to do.
Would she be willing to add a representative to her account to care for things if she became ill and was unable to?
Just a suggestion.
EllysGdaughter said on May 16, 2012
Hi Kathy,
We would do it together, after my uncle comes to talk with her. I like that plan of having her write or sign the checks but having a time to do it together and keeping them in better order. She has an order but it has gone a little south the last month or so as she has been confused. She’s a private person so I haven’t jumped into that area yet . . . I do have online banking which she didn’t really like but I did it anyway and I am on her accounts. We use a credit union that I’ve been a part of for many years and most of the tellers know me and that I access her account to deposit and cash small checks.