Thinking It Through….
Oct 13 2012 in Jane's Blog by Jane
Every time that Nicole has an appointment with her cardiologist or PH specialist it puts me in a tail spin for several days. That has been what this week has been like.
Nicole’s cardiologist agrees with the PH specialist that it is time for Nicole to be evaluated for transplant. This is scary enough. We knew this would come but I didn’t think it would be so soon. I don’t feel like I am ready for this but then I probably would never be.
Nicole and I attended a PH dinner on Thursday evening. One of the speakers was the PH specialist’s nurse. I get vibes from her that she doesn’t like me too much. Last year I spoke at one of these PH dinners and I was the first ever caregiver to speak; usually it is a patient. Anyway, when the nurse spoke she used the phrase “quality of life” and when it was my turn to speak I said I disliked that statement because to me I think of it as a negative statement. I don’t think she liked that too much… tough.
After the speakers and the dinner was over Thursday I talked to her about Nicole. I told her we saw the cardiologist and he wants her to be evaluated at the local hospital here for transplant. The look on her face said it all. She said that they just started doing transplants this year and this isn’t where the PH doctor was looking at for her. He’s looking at Mayo in Jacksonville. The cardiologist had given me the local surgeon’s contact information to set up an appointment if we made the decision to go ahead. I also said I wanted her increases of her medicine through her infusion pump to start again and she said she would have to come in for a test to see if it was better than the last one. If so, they would start increases. If not, they would keep it where it is. How much and how far do I push?
There has always been a question as to whether she would need a double lung transplant and a heart transplant or a double lung transplant and a heart repair. I learned something that I didn’t know or I don’t remember being told when the cardiologist said they would do the lung transplant and a heart repair. We knew she had a large VSD (ventricular septal defect). This is a hole between the left and right ventricle of the heart something she was born with. She also has three other holes lower down in the ventricle which can be corrected via a catheter. The large hole will need to be fixed surgically which they will do all of this prior to the lung transplant basically at the same time. They can’t fix the heart without the transplant because the pressures are too high in her lungs.
I went to the hospital’s website and saw that the statistics for lung transplant recipients is like 82% survival rate. Which is very good considering that there may be between 200 – 300 transplants done annually in the whole country.
I have a friend whose 19-year-old daughter is in the same boat with Nicole and they had a transplant evaluation and they were told that the five-year survival rate is 50% and that 20% I believe will die from organ rejection alone and that there is a high risk of cancer from the rejection drugs. They are some scary, scary statistics. The surgeon told them that in 10 years transplants will be so much different/better. They also say they will be able to grow organs from a person’s own stem cells in 10 years, too.
The thing is Nicole doesn’t have 10 years with the current medications to treat PH. My friend also said that while on the list you have to be within an hour from the hospital. We live probably a good three to four hours from Jacksonville which would mean we (Nicole and I) would have to live there. This also is true for University of Florida which is 2 1/2 hours away. The local hospital is 40 minutes at the very most with heavy traffic. Also, the cardiology nurse told me during the process they will see the patient weekly.
I know Nicole is all for a transplant because than she would be “normal” but I don’t know what her definition of normal is and we haven’t had time to sit down and talk about this as it is very hard to talk to Nicole as she doesn’t share her feelings.
The wait times for a lung transplant is anywhere from six to 18 months. I can’t stress enough the importance of being an organ donor. You don’t need them anymore when you die so why don’t you give someone like Nicole or somebody else a chance at life. Too many people die while waiting for organs.
This is why I would rather live in denial. I don’t have to think about Nicole dying from this disease without a cure or other medicines that will stop the progression of the disease or a lung transplant that will take months and months of recovery etc. if she makes it through the surgery. I can get by now kidding myself that things can stay just the way they are.

G-J said on October 14, 2012
Jane, your post makes me think of Mother Teresa’s quote, “I know God won’t give me anything I can’t handle. I just wish He didn’t trust me so much.” I imagine you feel a lot like Mother Teresa, wishing God didn’t trust you so much.
Here are my suggestions which came to mind after reading what you wrote:
If both hospitals do transplants, contact both hospitals and ask to speak to the transplant department/coordinator/social worker or person in that department who talks to the families pre-transplant. Your family is not the only family who is or has been stressed and terrified even though the outcome could be wonderful. Ask them your questions about living within an hour and how long you’d need to live there, as them about the information you’ve read on the internet (and remember that not everything you read on the internet is accurate). They have helped other people like you. Maybe there is a Ronald McDonald House or similar place where you and Nicole can live while waiting.
Explain to Nicole that while she is quiet, now is the time in her life to speak up. Explain to the doctors what she visualizes as “normal” and they can give their feedback on if that is a reasonable outcome.
Get evaluated by doctors at both hospitals and speak to both the PH doctor and the cardiologist. Can you all meet together somehow to discuss this?
Finally, maybe being a spokesperson for organ transplants and organ donations is your new, even temporary calling.
Please let me know how I can help. You know I’m good at tracking down information and sending it to you!
Despite everything else, I hope you had a happy birthday!
kristin masters said on October 14, 2012
Jane, I second G-J’s excellent suggestions. And also agree with the Mother Teresa allusion. You are going through more than any mother should have to, and I pray for you and Nicole to have the best outcome possible from the talks with doctors and eventual organ transplant.
AND you have convinced me to put “organ donor” on my driver’s license. (In New York it reads, “I hereby make an anatomical gift.” I just signed this.) So that is another of G-J’s suggestions that is good. Maybe you should be a spokesperson for organ transplant. You and Nicole would make a great team for that.
ejourneys said on October 18, 2012
What G-J and kristin said. I wonder if there is a checklist of activities against which Nicole could define her meaning of “normal,” so that she doesn’t have to come up with things from scratch. That might help her open up a bit.
I signed my first organ donor card almost as soon as I turned 18. I didn’t have a driver’s license; the card was supplied by a kidney organization whose name I forget. Two of my classmates served as witnesses because I was going against my parents’ wishes. I was down as an organ donor on my license in MA and am down as a donor on my FL license. My attitude has always been: Recycle as much of me as you can!
Bette said on October 18, 2012
Hi Jane,
It does feel sometimes like denial is a solution. As you gather information and address questions, you show denial doesn’t serve a purpose in those. Thank you for showing me that. (:
I was wondering if it would be possible to have conversations with those who you trust most, that are involved in Nicole’s care – conversations about the two hospitals.
You continue to look at each need and how they work together. Nicole is blessed with a mom like you! I know she’ll open up for you Jane, you have a way of being able to help others do that.
I am an organ donor and agree with the others that you and Nicole would be powerful voices.
Thinking and praying for each of you.
Trish said on October 21, 2012
Jane, I echo the excellent suggestions by GJ and the others. I, too, am signed up as an organ donar as is Richard and my daughter. It’s something I encourage people to do and think you and Nicole would be wonderful advocates for that cause.
GJ is so right that other families have gone through this and the doctors will have heard your concerns and questions before. They will be able to alleviate some of your fears and worries. The Ronald McDonald House is a great suggestion. We have one here in Sacramento and our firm just did a fundraiser for them. They help so many families. Other hospitals in CA have similar set ups for long-term care patients too.
I just did a search of the hospitals in your area and found that Shands provides “Transplant Housing” and has a Ronald McDonald house too. https://ufandshands.org/shands-uf-patient-guide/where-stay
The Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville has the Gabrielle’s House of Care: http://www.gabrielhouseofcare.org/index.html
I’ll be happy to make phone calls or do more research for you, too, Jane. You have a team here ready to help! Big hugs, hon.